Pacific Northwest HHO

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Comment by Pat Johnson on July 17, 2009 at 9:35am

Hello fellow NW HHO members. I.ve been in Olympia for over 50 years. I started experimenting with HHO in July 08 and just celebrated the aniversary of the first bubble of HHO that popped when I ignited it with a match. It was the only bubble that popped that day. The cell was a couple of screws and why it didn't produce more HHO I'll never know, but fortunately it didn't and I went back to YouTube vids and Panacea U and other good web sites, that take hours to find because of all the $97 and $49 sites selling books. If you've noticed, HHO technology is moving so fast that a book is obsolete before you can upload it to the web. So save your money and search the web for the latest info, to include this web site.

I'm addicted to HHO and spend countless hours experimenting and have found myself just watching HHO filling balloons, torch burning, all the while the brain is needing more HHO. So through trail and many errors, I've come up with a dry cell that is much different than the typical plate gasket configeration.

I'm frugal/cheap to my determent at times. I see the waste in engineering and production of products and try to see if there is a better way to make that mouse trap.

This HHO generator has several improvements over most dry cells. Improvements include: No need for inlet and outlet holes in the plates, eliminating current loss around the hole edges, plus gaining surface area that is lost with holes in the plates. More surface area, more HHO production. This is the big one. Plate gaskets for most dry cells appear to about a half inch wide to provide adequate sealing surface. Do the math, a 6x6 plate is 36 square inches each side, now remove 1/2 inch around the perimeter and you get a 5x5 surface area that is producing HHO. That is only 25 square inches remaining of the 36 original plate area. I'll leave you with this to ponder and you may come up with a solution. I did. Out of time and posting space. Happy trails. Pat

Comment by Travis on June 12, 2009 at 2:41am

I have an HHO unit purchased from a reputable purveyor of HHO systems on Ebay (wet cell, SS plates). I have yet to install it. It will be going on a 94 Saab 900 Turbo (2.0L 4cyl). Hopefully, within the next week. Looking for input on which MAP enhancer I should purchase and if anyone in this group has experience with HHO on turbo engines and what their results/experience has been to date. Also, I am keenly interested in EGT (Exhaust Gas Temperature) monitoring as it is an indicator and best way to monitor whether or not you are going to melt your engine according the research I hove poured over.

Does anyone in this group know of a mechanic in Seattle or on the Eastside in Bellevue that specializes in HHO fine tuning and HHO installations? Thanks and looking forward to becoming a contributing member of this group.

-Petrol speculators ought to be rounded up by the thousands (along with big oil execs),and their assets seized to be diverted toward the development of HHO systems and technologies. Then prices at the pump would drop dramatically. Don't let them fool you into thinking that supply and demand have anything to do with it. It is greed and SPECULATION, collusion and corruption that drive the price of oil up!

Comment by gary mbz on May 4, 2009 at 9:20am

hey ron tried to look at your site can't find anything wish this nw group would get going on some info ?take a look at my site www.hhoboostnow.com for mor information contact the 218 number we have very good luck with koh,and 3/64 plate spacing ..any way welcome to nw

Comment by Ron Dunbar on March 14, 2009 at 10:53am

Hi all,
I have been using a fuel cell on my truck for the last four months and I have been very happy with the results. Check out my web site, (http://northwesthydroforcefuel.synthasite.com/) you will find links for very informative information. I hope to get to know many of you in the Northwest.
Ron

Comment by Karl on February 11, 2009 at 4:39pm

Hi All,
I'm located in Tacoma, Wa., been working with HHO since spring of '08. Started out with ball jars and any SS I could find. Moved on to PVC and cover plates (304SS I think). Have worked strictly with wet cells, trying different plate configurations, bubblers and reservoirs. Have found that the reservoir helps greatly at keeping temperature down, recently reconfigured my cell to flush the gas bubbles from the electrolyte in a seperate chamber and returning the fluids to the reservoir. Found that Isopropyl alcohol works well as an antifreeze and bubbler fluid(Grocery store - 99% solution). On the output from the bubbler I have a dessicent filter ( Harbor freight $7.99) this removes any vapors in the gas. I'm also in the process of building a flash arrestor that will use dessicent material and bronze wool or some other material that will inhibit the flash from traveling back.

Comment by Farmer Bobb on February 8, 2009 at 12:46am

Anybody from the Northeast corner of WA? I've built afew (3) Hotsabi Boosters that work well but get hot quick. Found dry cell style and have four units that work great. The wife says to leave her RAV-4 alone so my 91 Plymouth Laser is the winter test bed. Its been frozen and not used as much, lost mileage, installed a O2 extender. Will let you all know hows it's going! Having fun in the snow. Bobb

Comment by Dusty Allen on July 20, 2008 at 12:24pm

hey I'm Dusty I'm from molalla oregon. I built a few generators and bought one aswell. the one I bought from hydrogen frog melted and was not very good quality. I put a 6"x10" on a F350 diesel and bumped it up to about 20-22 mpg, from 14-15. not the best but its an improvement. I have been using stainless steel all thread, and am going to try using ss plates instead. if anyone has any suggestions on the ss plates let me know.

Comment by Micah on July 20, 2008 at 2:11am

Hello fellow NWer's! I've been gone awhile but am looking forward to my return home here soon. I will be traveling 3000 miles from Virginia to Oregon. Can't wait to see some real mountains!!!!!!!!! To flat here in VA for me. I'll keep you all posted on my gas savings going cross country.

Comment by TheLinked1 on July 13, 2008 at 11:18pm

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(Image source-http://www.bendweekly.com/files/gas-arm_leg-web.jpg).
I'm LaDonna, from Tacoma, WA and I'm looking to install a ER HyZor into my 1992 Chry Le Baron. I'm just here to look around a bit more before I commit to this HHO operation I have planned. I'd be interested to know what you know specifically about the ER HyZor. I found a testimonial on YouTube- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hfrbl9hik4U and followed the link to http://www.eagle-research.com that is selling the HHO system.

Comment by zoocrue03 on June 27, 2008 at 7:13pm

I would like to make my own like every one i want to know what the better way to do it, is it with plates or tubes or mesh. I have also been looking at a filter that you can get at home depot it its made by ACTION its an irrigation filter . http://www.actionfilters.com/uploads/_MG_3239.JPG
like this. it could be used as a fuel cell with some mods done to it. it can handle the pressure build up if there was any.
Q: What is the maximum working pressure?
A: Our filters are rated at 200 PSI max working pressure.

Q: What is the maximum operating temperature?
A: Thermoplastics decrease in strength when the temperature rises above 73° F, maximum operating temperature should not exceed 120° F.
the temp i see is the draw back. do cells exceed 120 degrees? if it has the proper mixture. then there is the whole electrical wiring lay out that im not sure with, as to the effie system and the map system, and where to put the inlet of the hole , before or after the o2 censer..i have watched a lot of you tube videos. so what is the best set up?

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